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As Sebastian Vettel headed down the pit lane after winning the Indian Grand Prix, team-mate Mark Webber's Red Bull behind gave him a couple of little nudges as they headed to their correct parking places.' I switched off the car,' Vettel said. 'I was told to park the car under the podium and I couldn't remember where it was from last year and Mark gave me a little bit of a push.' He added that he thought it was his 'only mistake' of the day, which sounds about right.a new achievement for the German despite his domination on the way to the world championship last year, and he has now led every racing lap since Lewis Hamilton's McLaren four races ago.It also moves Vettel to one win short of the tally of Sir Jackie Stewart.

At this rate, Vettel will not only pass the Scot's number of victories before the end of the year but join him as a three-time world champion as well. In order to see this content you need to have both enabled and installed. Visit for full instructions. If you're reading via RSS, you'll need to visit the blog to access this content.Vettel is still only Ferrari's Fernando Alonso, which is less than a driver earns for a third place, but it is the scale of Red Bull's current superiority that has led many to suspect the battle is already effectively over.Vettel was and took yet another pole position. After the German's crushing wins and the only surprise at the Buddh International Circuit was that Red Bull's margin over the rest of the field was smaller than expected in qualifying.In the race, though, Vettel was completely untouchable.In the first 20 laps, he was not that much faster than team-mate Mark Webber in second place, and the Australian was being pretty much matched by Alonso.But then Vettel cut loose, suddenly lapping 0.5 seconds faster than before.

In order to see this content you need to have both enabled and installed. Visit for full instructions. If you're reading via RSS, you'll need to visit the blog to access this content.Alonso was as impressive in India as he has been all season, aggressive and inch perfect in the opening laps as he fought past both McLaren drivers, and relentless in his pursuit of Webber for second place.The fact that the Spaniard passed the Australian was down to a degree of luck, it has to be said.

A deserved win for a great driver and a great team. Vettel is class - simple as that. Hopefully he will wrap it up soon because he deserves it more than anyone else.Why would anyone feel sorry for Alonso? Fernando Alonso benefits more from other drivers accidents/failures than any driver I have ever seen. That's not always down to world-class driving - more often than not it is down to luck. He also has a very cooperative team-mate who's job is to not challenge Alonso, but instead hold up other potential challengers. Many people held Massa in high regard until 3 years ago - disgrace.Ferrari's car is nowhere near as bad as everyone makes out - Alonso had an extremely high top-speed today, and gained a huge benefit as a result.I wish that next season Massa will get a fair crack at Alonso.

Titles need to be won, and they are supposed to be an individual effort. 'Further modifications came on stream in Japan and Korea and now Red Bull have a car that on pure pace is out of reach of their rivals.' The car driven by Vettel seems to out of reach of their rivals. The car driven by Webber seemed to have pace very similar to that of Alonso's Ferrari, even before Webber's KERS problems.This has been the case for the past few seasons - the 'Red Bull dominance' has been in effect Sebastian Vettels dominance.Let's suppose that in 2009 Red Bull don't sign Vettel: they sign some other young driver - Rosberg or Kobayashi, perhaps.Then Alonso wins the 2010 WDC, Button wins the 2011 WDC, Alonso is currently a lock to win his fourth WDC in 2012, and nobody in October 2012 is warbling on about how wonderful Adrian Newey is.

There's no denying that Vettel is one of the best drivers on the grid, but I would like to see him win several races and a championship in a car not designed by Newey before I rate him as THE best. He can race and overtake in my opinion, but more often than not he does have the best machinery available to him. At the moment, Vettel's current and likely championship streak is reminiscent of the claimed advantages Schumacher had for his Ferrari championships, except he only has a design genius (Schumacher obviously had this, but apparently by far the best engine and personal tyres too). Although Vettel's achievements are very good, I don't rate them as great yet, even if he joins Schumacher and Fangio on three consecutive championships. Currently the best is Alonso because he is driving like a man possessed. No the Ferrari isn't as bad as everyone makes out in race trim, but from my memory, in nearly every race this season, there's been at least one, if not two or three other cars from other teams faster than him on true pace. On most occasions by only a little margin, but a margin nonetheless.

So, to be where he his deserves plaudits, and many people's measured opinion will be that he would deserve the championship this year. That matters little however if he doesn't win it. @10 TPJ - I am not a Vettel fan but this argument is seriously getting tiresome.

Vettel won a race in a Toro Rosso in 2008 and was pretty outstanding in it over the whole season. There are still one or two question marks about his racecraft in my opinion but he has shown time and time again he is a brilliant driver.@15 I completely agree. If it is all just the car and not Vettel making some difference then why has Webber not been second in the championship the last 2 seasons and this year?

Why have Red Bull not been finishing 1-2 every race? Yes the Red Bull is a good car, but it is Vettel is making the difference between that good car and a car that wins championships. No matter how good a driver is his success is ultimately determined by the team and the equipment. Both Hamilton (team) and Alonso (car) have suffered from one of these two defficiencies. But whilst car and driver cannot be separated there are still two separate championships. The constructors is the most acurate beacuse it emcompasses all three (team, car, driver), but it completely skews the picture when it comes to handing out WDCs and who deserves what. The pub arguments about who was great and who wasn't will rage on for decades and leaves F1 as the most subjective sport ever.

23 - but they all proved themselves at some stage in inferior machinery. Apart from one wet win in Monza (and the wet skews everything), Vettel has not really done truly special/great things when he shouldn't be able to, like Alonso and indeed Hamilton have done. All he has done is quite correctly, as you'd expect from a top driver, won with the best machinery, which I doubt many people would be able to do (you only have to look at Webber as an example). I'm not saying Vettel is rubbish, I am saying he is right up there, but for me, to beat Alonso and Hamilton, he has to do something akin to what Alonso has done this year. 'It is the qualifying pace that is the key - start at the front and you can run in clear air, dictate the pace of the race, and are not affected by the turbulence of other cars. In this position, Vettel is close to unbeatable.' 'Strange that your boyfriend Lewis Hamilton couldnt do this at Melbourne, the first race of the season, Andrew Benson.He got creamed by Jenson and finished behind current championship leader Vettel, who started 6th and finished 2nd because Hamilton, in a car that was class of the field, couldnt overtake Vettel for some reason.In the 2nd race, with mclaren again class of the field, Vettel started 6th and wouldv finished 4th if it wasnt for Karthikeyan, who got penalised for taking Vettel out.In the third race Vettel started 11th, and ran as high as 2nd before his tyres fell off.

He finished a credible 5th.He won the fourth race and led the standings in what was not the best car of the field.THATS why he is now leading the field. In contrast, Hamilton started 3rd, said he could take the fight to the Red Bulls in race trim, and finished 4th, and is now officially out of the Championship fight. Thanks for acknowledging that.And show some respect to Vettels driving.

The guy earned it, me thinks. We seem to be in what may one day be known as 'The Tyre Management Era' of Formula One. Drivers have to be cautious about attempting overtakes lest they take too much out of their tyres. In the Korean GP the RB engineers were very concerned that Vettel's rubber might fall apart before the finish line.I'd like to see the tyres play less of a role next year.Being a top driver means different things in different eras of F1. One of the things making Vettel the top driver at present is that he seems to have a unique ability to drive fast while still preserving his tyres. Twirlip, you're entitled to your opinion.

It's just what I think. Schumacher did in 1996 (the bbc agree - look at his greatest drivers piece), Senna won several races, podiums and poles before he moved to McLaren, and when he got there he faced off against Prost. Just two examples. The majority of Hamilton's 2009 season, in my opinion, was excellent in a not too fast car. And even if you don't like him, to rate Alonso's performance as decent is a bit of a joke.30 - I'm talking about regular or several results. One offs here and there are all good and well but most drivers can do that - look at Perez this year at Monza for example. Plus, his result in the 2007 grand prix wasn't particularly special in my opinion.

He finished 53 seconds off the lead, benefitted from the retirements of Hamilton and Kubica and his teammate was 6th, showing that the car was pretty decent back then - a lot moreso than it is now anyway. I have nothing against Vettel, I'm only disappointed that after such a fascinating start to the season, it's in danger of ending in a bit of a procession, plus that would take us into the realms of 2000-2004 when Schumacher won every year and F1 became a bit of a snore (unless you were a Schumi fan, of course!)I also think Alonso has been the best driver this year, but I'd be the first to admit it's rarely other than the best car that wins the championship in the end, even with the likes of Prost, Senna, Schumacher etc. And there's no doubt from me that Vettel is a class act. No wonder Jackie Stewart is such a big fan, I would argue there's a similarity in that both drivers were/are brilliant at leading from the front and controlling the race.I would LOVE to see Vettel and Alonso fight it out in equal cars. 'In some respects this season reminds me of the one in '93. That year Senna was undoubtedly the best driver but a combination of the vastly superior Williams FW15C and the knowhow of Prost won the championship that year.' Leaving aside your judgement call that Senna was 'undoubtedly the best driver' that year, that's still a terrible analogy.

The two Williams cars took 15 of 16 pole positions that year. Senna typically qualified a stunning TWO SECONDS slower than Prost. You can't seriously be suggesting that the RB8 is comparable to the 1993 Williams and that it is a 'vastly superior' car.Those people going on and on about how unfairly fast the RB car supposedly is this year should look to 1993 for correction.This year is actually a lot like 2008 - multiple race winners all down the table, very little separating the top drivers in terms of qualifying time or distance ahead at the end. I just get frustrated seeing some of your comments about Vettel having the superior machinery and Alonso being in a sorry state. Alonso has 'lucked' out of others' issues in close to five occasions this season.

Yes, you have to be at the right place at the right time to make your own luck but saying he's class is far fetched. Consider yesterday's race, McLaren drivers were fighting between themselves while Alonso squeezed past both of them with a speed advantage of atleast 7kmph. Ofcourse Webber's KERS issues helped but Alonso is not doing anything the car is not capable of doing.Onto Vettel. I think people need to get out of this selective amnesia state, open up their eyes and watch him drive the wheels out of the car at Spa Francorchamps this season to see why even with an inferior car, he can be a good driver, or atleast as good as Alonso. And ofcourse Vettel has had his fair share of misfortunes too, like Monza, Valencia etc where he had to retire due to no fault of his. Alonso on the other hand put himself under trouble in Suzuka by pushing Kimi to the grass. Thank god, he got nothing out of the race because he deserved to crash out there.Talking about driving the best car, when did Alonso win a championship without driving the best car?

Or for that matter, when did anyone win a championship without driving the best car or one of the best cars? Alonso is better than Massa, similarly Vettel is better than Webber and that's all we can conclude here but Vettel is on course to win his third championship. In such a complex sport where team work and precision prevail more than anything else, you cannot discount the feat achieved by Vettel. And in F1, whoever wins the championship deserves to win it, end of story.

@ 43You´re quite correct about Senna´s Lotus years. Lotus was definitely fielding a winning car, which is why Senna signed for them. As with Fangio, Senna never stuck very long in a losing team. I´m not sure either of them made a losing team into a winner, either. Fangio at Maserati, maybe?@ 30 & 35: Was Vettel´s 4th place in 2007 not in a BMW, rather than Torro Rosso? A very strong result for a debutant.

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Maybe making a very strong competitor like Webber into a solid no 2 over a full 3 seasons is the best indicator of how strong Vettel really is. It´s not just the car.

I see that Twirlip has already left his excrement all over this discussion.#20 'I expected Hamilton to challenge for the win.' No you didn't. It's yet another statement of yours to fulfill your agenda. But let's imagine that you did truly believe that.

Well, it would suggest you don't watch the races, as post-Singapore it's clear that McLaren simply haven't had the pace to challenge Red Bull. Or you don't/will not understand such startingly obvious things.'

The start of the season, when the McLaren was the quickest car by some distance.' Oh don't kid yourself. The McLaren was the quickest car overall. But nowhere near as the Red Bull is now. Nor has the McLaren car (or team) had the consistency or reliability of the Red Bull over the previous four races.#23, Dominating in superior machinery is just one part of 'greatness.' Vettel, to date, has been unremarkable without the best car. Otherwise, perhaps you'll explain his one win in the first thirteen races this season when his Red Bull wasn't the best car?#28 Oh, I don't know, perhaps beating the then reigning two time WDC as a teammate (Alonso, the driver most impartial viewers believe to be, by far, the best driver today)during his rookie year!?

Or winning by a staggering 1m 08 seconds in the wet at Silverstone 2008? Perhaps, being the then youngest WDC in 2008? I'm sure you cite similar 'youngest' records for Vettel when it suits.#43. I don't suppose you've even heard of Tolman.#45, It's all relative.

Otherwise, once again I ask you to explain Vettel's 2012, pre and post Singapore. Some stats for you. Pre Singapore, Vettel had an average qualifying and finishing position of 5.3. After Newey's upgrades Singapore and beyond? An average qualifying position of 1.75 and an average finishing position of 1.Webber has also greatly improved post-Singapore. Why is that, Twirlip?And another couple of points. You've only started to watch F1, since Vettel started winning, haven't you?

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And you watch solely to see Vettel win. Such things explain your absence on here between Valencia and Singapore. @52@'Talking about driving the best car, when did Alonso win a championship without driving the best car? Or for that matter, when did anyone win a championship without driving the best car or one of the best cars? Alonso is better than Massa, similarly Vettel is better than Webber and that's all we can conclude here but Vettel is on course to win his third championship. In such a complex sport where team work and precision prevail more than anything else, you cannot discount the feat achieved by Vettel.

And in F1, whoever wins the championship deserves to win it, end of story.' Alonso did it in 2005 fighting against Schumacher and Ferrari. Raikkonen 2007.

McLaren was the best car that year but other issues hurt them that season. The spygate and the bad relationship with Alonso. @60,Oh for Christ's sakes. Again, EVERY single post of yours is twisted and spun to try to favour Vettel.

Webber HAS improved in recent races, purely because of the upgrades. I'll give you Singapore but see below.Japan - Qualified 2nd, finished 9th from last place after Grosjean crashed into himKorea - Qualified 1st, finished 2ndIndia - Qualified 2nd, finished 3rdWhich you'll simply ignore because it doesn't suit your bias. You are by far the most fanatical fanboy on here. As is befitting of someone who has just started watching the sport and is DESPERATE to prove to himself and others that he understands F1.Also, three consecutive Red Bull front row lock outs in the last three races, when they had precisely zero during the rest of the season. 'beating the then reigning two time WDC as a teammate (Alonso, the driver most impartial viewers believe to be, by far, the best driver today)during his rookie year!? Or winning by a staggering 1m 08 seconds in the wet at Silverstone 2008?

Perhaps, being the then youngest WDC in 2008? I'm sure you cite similar 'youngest' records for Vettel when it suits.' Actually, no, I don't.But let's assume that I did.

In that case, I'd be saying the same sorts of things about Vettel as you constantly say about Hamilton. So wouldn't that make you a hopeless Hami fan boi?My point about Vettel is the same as it has always been - that people complaining about how supposedly fabulous his car is are ignorant at best, bigoted at worst.

Anyone with even a passing familiarity with F1 must know that the successful drivers of the past enjoyed a much greater degree of mechanical superiority than Vettel has.That's a narrowly focused argument. If you were capable of a narrowly focused rebuttal of it you would not be the contemptible character you are. @redsloz Vettel is just as fortunate as Alonso, they have both had 2 dnfs this season. If anything Alonso is less fortunate as he's been taken out in two first corner incidents. I am a Mclaren fan but I can see that Alonso is the best driver in the field and is out performing his car.How you can think Massa should be given a fair chance is stupid.

He is being given a fair chance, he's just not good enough. 10 podiums to Massa's 1. Massa is told to slow down in one GP and you focus on that.

Ignore the fact that he was 35 seconds behind Alonso today. I hope Alonso wins the title as he is most deserved, and I also hope Vettel moves to Ferrari so we can see the two best drives against each other in the same cars. @ thegreat:I didnt drag Hamiltons name in it. @Boristhegeek - You keep pulling the same Benson quote out about how he praises Lewis, because it's one of very few!The truth is anyone who enjoys the excitement of F1 should enjoy Lewis' driving because it's exciting!

Whether you don't like him because he's a 'rapper' or maybe a 'gangster' if you want to be stereotypical if not completely racist, shouldn't matter. Fans want to see fast overtaking and crashes (as long as no one is hurt), that's what makes F1 exciting.

That's why people liked Senna, that's why people like Hamilton and Alonso.P.S I'm not going to compare how exciting Lewis is compared to Jenson for example, as that would start the fortnightly argument. Alonso performed the best of the top teams imo and Jenson the worst.Jenson Button today got mugged by both Alonso and Hamilton and to add insult to injury Jenson on new tyres couldn't overtake Grosjean who was on old tyres and ended up finishing the race 13 seconds behind Lewis.Also note that both Lotuses were struggling for straight line speed so it should have been candy from a baby.Look at how little attention gets drawn to those startling facts.Hamilton would have been crucified if that was him today. @ BoristhegreekWhy would you label LH as the rapper? Even if he is, what is wrong with that?Why are you paranoid? No one said LH was F1, only you who cant seem to stop talking about him.About him getting beaten today!

Are you serious? Did you see anyone beating the redbul today? Maybe we should forget that the redbull has been fastest in practice 1,2,3 and quali.Also why single him out? I seem to remember Vettel beating everyone?Boris every topic on BBC f1 i have seen you in, all you talk about is Hamilton rapper this, Hamilton urban that?

What is your beef really? Seriously, thing about it and get back to me. @ 81 BoristhegreekYou still havent answered my many question i asked you in post 79i stress again take your time and get back to me pleaseAlso about the race today, Button and not LH in the post interview said that the Mclaren couldn't handle the soft tyres, Once they fitted the hard tyres, you saw both he and Hamilton coming back in the field.Seriously what is your beef?You know i have even seen a comment of yours bashing Hamilton for wearing an earing?!!!!!!!!Again, think about it and get back to me.

McLaren had a mare today. They clearly put all their eggs in the qualifykng basket and forgot that points are won on a Sunday. Both Hamilton and Button's top speeds through the speed trap were 10ks + down on the fastest cars.What were the engineers thinking of?

Talk about going to battle with one arm tied behind your back! Let me start by saying I'm by no means a fan of Vettel's or Red Bull's. They're dominance makes me want to change the channel at times, especially over the last 3-4 races, but you cannot deny that Sebastian is something special.He's outperformed his team-mate over the past 3 years in a car that's consistently been one of the top 2 teams, and very often the best in terms of performance.

The discrepancy in performance between the top teams isn't as great as some people are making it out to be on forums like these, Vettel is just making it look so lately with his performances. He's doing precisely what is asked of him in order to retain his WDC. He's putting the car on pole and leading from lights to flag.

The consistency of concentration throughout is astonishing and something to be admired.However, the Red Bull isn't unbeatable when they encounter a track that suits their set-up. Take Mark Webber for example, who's no slouch in the car by any stretch of the imagination. Fernando has shown today that the Red Bull isn't unbeatable, and just exemplifies how quick Vettel is in comparison.I really hope this title goes down to the last race in Brazil, but I fear if Vettel finishes above Alonso in Abu Dhabi, then it's curtains.

Barring any reliability issues or poor weather conditions, and even with further upgrades, I don't see how Ferrari are going to claw back the deficit in the WDC. @ oddz,You asked if i had seen anyone beat red bull today, i said yes, alonso. You asked why hamiltons examples of drvig, i said because its relevant to bensons arguing over Vettel not being all that.@croftalicious,Red Bull had Kers issues, tea tray scraping on top of various points an wins lost by alternator issues and gearbox penaltys. Its not lke mclaren the only team screwing up. They simply dont have very good drivers, drivers of the calibre of Vettel.Benson, why no article on Hamilton now officially out of title race and being beaten by Vettel indefinitly for 2012? Button plays a part in the rudderless attitude of Mclaren too. Both him and Hamilton dont seem to be very good team leaders, showing unity and spend many hours with the team.

Hamiltons tweet gate and girl band management show he is busy with other things than racing and getting a real world title.Insteads, Vettel and Alonso, the big 2 of F1 (benson likes to include Hamilton, for reasons unknown to me) show being an F1 great takes brain power, leadership, vision and devotion. Hamilton and Button dont have that, and thats why they dont fight for the title, and Vettel breaks all the records.

Though Vettel is one of the best right now, he is far from being THE best. Vettel is strong and wins his races mostly when he has the best car and the pole position. I am not a hater, but I def think that Hamilton, Alonso and even Kimi are better than him. Until he proves that he can win races without Newey, though his legacy is already cemented, he won't be one of the greats.

It is ridiculous when he is ranked higher than Alonso in the all time great standings. Vettel can win this championship but making people say that he is better than Alonso? He has a lot more to do. @ Boris 94, you're right, Red Bull did have problems today with Webber's KERs.

The tea tray was unfortunate, but didn't slow Vettel at all, so that's a moot issue. And Vettel's retired a couple of times due to mechanical issues; but so has every driver bar Alonso and Raikkonnen.I'm not belittling Vettel; in the quickest car he is undoubtably the quickest driver. What I'm trying to get at is at almost every race the driver who has won the race has been in the quickest car (Button, Rosberg early in the year, Button and Hamilton Hungary - Italy, Vettel and Webber in some mid-season races, and Vettel in the last 4) Only Alonso and Maldonado have won races in inferior machinery, in my opinion, this season. For someone, such as yourself, to assert that the reason McLaren don't lead the championship because their drivers are poor is, I think, absurd. Both Button and Hamilton have proven themselves quick over their careers, and to dismiss them as below Vettel who has never win without having a leading car, is ridiculous.

Infact, how many races has Vettel won from off the front row of the grid? Not many I bet.Again, I'm not belittling his achievements, far from it, his destruction of Webber this year and last shows just how good he is. I just don't think he transcends the field to the level you do.